Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Academic Journals

Journal of Injury and Violence Research

Do other editors think that the Journal of Injury and Violence Research is notable? No impact factor and not indexed in any databases that seem to be clearly selective enough to meet NJOURNALS, so I would guess that it isn't, but of course I want to know what other editors in this project think too. Every morning (there's a halo...) 02:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Index Medicus is selective. It'd be a pass for me. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:The Malaysian Journal of Library and Information Science (MJLIS)

I noticed this abandoned draft Draft:The Malaysian Journal of Library and Information Science (MJLIS) and wondered whether the journal might be notable. Eastmain (talk o contribs) 04:20, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

It is. Updated and put in the mainspace. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:12, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Merge of open access journal

Beland has recently carried out a complete merge from open access journal into open access. This has been discussed once or twice before with the conclusion not to merge, but the last time seems to have been several years ago. I do not have a strong opinion about this, but I thought others might want to discuss it. --JBL (talk) 13:42, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

If it helps I can explain a bit about what happened. I don't have a fundamental objection to having an article "open access journal"; people have pointed out it's one of two ways to achieve open access in scientific publications. But as it happens something like 90% of the content of open access is actually about open access journals. This resulted in a ton of overlap, for example the history section in one article would have events A B C D, and the history section in the other article would have events B D E F. Now there's one article that has A B C D E F. It's possible to recreate "open access journal" but it should not just have B D E F again; it should either have A B C D E F or a one-paragraph summary thereof with a link to the other article. I did retain links to specific types of open access journal which I haven't checked for overlap. Open access is currently uncomfortably long (and has been for a while), but I'm working on shortening it significantly by reducing repetition. If some material must be moved out due to length, I would suggest, though, that splitting off "open access journal" while conceptually natural, is not the most natural way to split up the article without creating excessive cross- referencing. I would start by creating History of open access, which would be fairly independent. -- Beland (talk) 14:10, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:International Journal of Management, Economics and Social Sciences

I'd welcome an expert opinion on this journal; it is included in a list of predatory journals[1] and the website seemed a little 'off' to me, but the creator has objected to the classification and cited its inclusion in several indexing services I've never heard of. Thanks, Espresso Addict (talk) 10:37, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

I've declined it. None of these indices are selective in the sense of WP:NJOURNALS. Well written for a draft however. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:50, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Espresso Addict (talk) 11:10, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Perspectives on Terrorism

Hello again, could I request that someone checks whether this online-only, open-access journal is actually indexed by Scopus? Thanks, Espresso Addict (talk) 03:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Yep, see here, since 2017. You can check this without needing a subscription at the search page here. (For some reason, the first time I click this link I go to a login page, but when I close that and click the link again, I go to the search page...) --Randykitty (talk) 06:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Randykitty. I tried and got a log-in link a couple of times. I'll see if I can bypass it somehow. Espresso Addict (talk) 13:37, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
  • It's really weird. I access it directly from home and most of the time it goes directly to the search page, but then occasionally to the login page. Same with links to journal source details. --Randykitty (talk) 13:49, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Landslides (academic journal)

Hi all. I created and submitted a draft for the journal "Landslides", which is one of the leading journals in Earth Sciences and Engineering focusing on natural hazards, and surely the leading journal on landslides. It is published since 2004 but surprisingly it did not have a wiki article on his own. Please feel free to improve it. Cheers! Gianvito Scaringi (talk) 04:41, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:JDVI (Journal of General-Procedural Dermatology & Venereology Indonesia)

I wonder if this journal Draft:JDVI (Journal of General-Procedural Dermatology & Venereology Indonesia) is notable. Eastmain (talk o contribs) 04:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

  • If their page listing indexing is current, then the answer is no, not yet. None of the listed indexing services is remotely selective in the sense of NJournals. No indication either that this meets GNG. I checked the NLM Catalog and it isn't even in PubMed Central, which should be easy for a journal like this. --Randykitty (talk) 08:30, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Declined. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:43, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Open access in Italy#Request for comments on image gallery of journal covers

This RFC is about whether it is acceptable/useful in articles on OA to include galleries of cover images of journals (insofar acceptable due to copyright issues). Input from knowledgeable editors is welcome. --Randykitty (talk) 07:53, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

WP:Articles for deletion/International Journal of MCH and AIDS

This AfD could use the input of knowledgeable editors. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 09:19, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Guidelines and bibliometric information

Hi. I saw this edit and I'd like to know where is written that we only insert in these articles bibliometric information related to IF. I think I will write more articles about journals, like one every 6-12 months, so I'd like to have more details. I took a look in defaultlogic.com Resource: WikiProject Academic Journals/Writing guide before commenting here and it said nothing about inserting only the IF. I's possible I didn't pay enough attention, of course. Actually, reading the sentence journal is indexed in selective bibliographic databases in its field, or has an impact factor I was not imaging defaultlogic.com resource so IF-centric. Than I read Do not give a list of past impact factors, but only the most recent one and I was hopeful that a more recent data (2017 instead of 2016) gave a better picture.

To be fair, there aren't a gazilion of metrics (as stated in that object) in my experience, so this specific limitation to the IF is quite unexpected. The user did a good job of expansion so (s)he knows his/her business, but I am surprised that metrics such as SCIMAGO IF are voluntarily ignored, they provide a quite balance picture in the end. Maybe years ago IF was the only solid alternative, but the situation has quite evolved. I always look at all the data when i hear fo a journal for the first time.

Considering how short these article ares, I personally think that we should put more standardized links to metric websites, in the interest of the readers, but in any case I don't mind. Can we however just be sure the guideline is written accordingly to the current standard? And if it is, maybe I did not see it because this passage can be written a little better. Thank you.--Alexmar983 (talk) 19:12, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

  • Actually, there are quite a large number of metrics. The Journal Citation Reports alone lists total cites, IF, 5-yr IF, Immediacy Index, and a few others. Scopus lists CiteScore, SJR, and SNIP. GScholar lists h-indices. There's ResearchGate and Index Copernicus (the latter one more bogus than real) that produce statistics. And for every single metric we can find a journal's ranking in its category. All these metrics are updated yearly. All of it can be sourced. It's already a pain to update just the IF in all our journal articles each year (which is why many articles still have the, say, 2010 IF; see Category:Articles with outdated impact factors), imagine the amount of work if we would list all these different metrics. Now look at journals' websites. A very few (mostly very high-IF ones) do not list any metrics. Some list Scopus metrics. And every single one that lists metrics lists the Clarivate IF (if they have one). Authors (and readers) are not different. When did you ever hear someone say "I submitted my last paper to Journal of Foo, because it has a very high CiteScore" (or h-index, or SNIp, or...)? Exactly. All that people look for is the IF. The latest one (no one cares about last year's IF). So for the practical reason that it is impossible to keep all those metrics up-to-date and the fact that readers are interested in the IF, that's the one we list. Once things change in real life, we can revisit this, but for the moment, this is the situation we have to deal with. --Randykitty (talk) 22:11, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
When did you ever hear someone say... I did hear that. When you have a selection of options you use other metrics. Last time that a similar discussion occurred was I think last year. One grant had a specific subset of suggested publications, so in a specific area we used the best metric to select the best option out of it. Even if the IF of the best journal in that table was not great we used the other factors to opt the best one. In any case, as soon as you efficiently link to wikidata (did enwiki invest efficiently on that side?), the yearly update is not a big issue. I still think that they are not a lot of them, especially for example if you decide about a standardized external link where most of this information is combined. They are the same order of the list of archives that it seems you put.
In any case can someone tell me where this style request is written? Am I right when I say it's not in the guideline at the moment? it's never an optimum when you don't link a guideline or a pivotal old discussion. --Alexmar983 (talk) 23:34, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
For metrics, we typically only list the most recent IF (2-year), and sometimes the SCImago Journal Rank (usually in cases were there is no IF). Other metrics aren't very relevant. There is some guidance in WP:JWG, which mostly says put the IF, simply because very few people are compelled to add anything beyond the IF. I suppose we could expand the guidance to say only include IF and sometimes SJR if there's no IF. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:42, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
So in the same guideline I link above, it is not written there that the other bibliometric information should be removed. I was adding because it was making the stub more complete. I don't understand why call it a stub (I put the template based on similar cases, and it was kept) if the other possible information to insert is not ok. It kinda lacks some general perspective. I am also curious because we now talk about expanding or improving the guideline, so are we starting a discussion or are we referring to those previous discussion(s) cited in the object of the edit. can someone link them, I really want to learn something on this topic.--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Previous discussions are in the archives of this page (or linked from there if on other pages). --Randykitty (talk) 15:25, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Randykitty this is a wiki not the DMV where it is fine if give a formal reply, that is not the core of cooperative environment. I understand they are somewhere in the archive, I have asked if you can tell me more, thank you. You cited those discussions so you know much better when they occurred, right? it takes to you one fifth of the time to find them, and I would say approximately the time of these comments where I presume you write down a duplicate of what was discussed in the past. Now, in the wiki spirit they should have been linked from the guideline years ago, but at least can you show them now? I can put them in the guideline myself especially if they are robust, coherent and confirmed over the years by different group of users. Also, as an expert users you know that with these things you just don't stop at one discussions, it is much better to have them all. Since you were here, it's much easy for you to know how many they are and don't stop before coollecting all of the most recent one. In any case while I searched myself before asking (something I do to improve the double-validation) I found this one. This is very recent and in that situation you appear to clean up the article as you did in this case, but the users User:David_Eppstein and blocked user User:DavidMinerck show some interesting views that are very similar to mine, in that occurrence you don't link or cite any previous discussion but you give your reasons. Wouldn't that be much easier to link to those project discussions? So , let's start now, shall we?--Alexmar983 (talk) 00:47, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Actually, it's not that simple. Some of the discussions were on this talk page and are in the archives (search for "metric" or perhaps also "impact"). But several discussions took place at article talk pages and in that case, all that may have been placed on this talk page is a short notice without actually mentioning the subject ("there's a discussion at page xxxx that may be of interest to members of this project"). Despite numerous discussions, practice has not changed and only the current (2-year) impact factor is listed for the moment. Let me summarize the points once again. 1/ There are many metrics to gauge journal performance. All are updated yearly. For all of them, rankings of journals (generally in several categories) are available. 2/ To list all metrics with their rankings for all available years is unfeasible and not really of interest to almost any reader. A selection has to be made. 3/ This selection should be the same for all journals. Otherwise this opens the door to promotional editing where publishers/editors will just choose the particular metric which puts their journal in the best light. 4/ The choice of metric to display should be based not on WP editor preference but on current practice in the real world. The article on the impact factor contains some references documenting the use of the IF. 5/ Far as I know, there are no (or very few) sources discussing the use of other metrics (by authors/readers, not by the databases that produce them). Conclusion: there are good reasons to limit the listing of metrics to the impact factor. Like it or not (and, for the record, I don't like it), the IF is by far the metric that decides where authors are going to submit their work and also the metric that is most often used to evaluate the work of academics. As long as this is the case, WP should conform to this usage. Once the real world gets past its IF addiction, we can adapt, but that doesn't look to be happening anytime soon. --Randykitty (talk) 07:19, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
  • How about this for a compromise: Scopus puts all of its metrics online and freely accessible (This is a new development, can't recall exactly when they started doing this, but after most of the previous discussions on metrics). Headbomb, what do you think of adding the Scopus ID to the infobox so that when you click on it, you go to that page? The Scopus ID can be found by searching for a journal here. For example, Astronomy & Astrophysics has a Scopus ID of 26750 (which should be linked to https://www.scopus.com/sourceid/26750 where all Scopus metrics and rankings can be found). This would be a one-time thing to add, Scopus updates itself. --Randykitty (talk) 14:48, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
I'd be fine with that. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:50, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
me too. Please notice however that this is just a evolution of metrics that is constant and should be monitored in 2 or 4 or 6 years in any case. As I said in my first comment here I personally think that we should put more standardized links to metric websites,. So of course I agree with this option but this is part of a process, in some way. We are discussing this right now but I am suprised we didn't since the first passage. Why was is it unusually hard? This is something that shows IMHO how "self-referencing traditions" are not the perfect pillar. Updating guidelines with linked recent or key discussions is necessary to get a constant monitoring, improvement and update of the quality of the content.--Alexmar983 (talk) 22:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

I was writing yesterday and I stopped but before I resume the discussion above, please just let me recover few points:

  • All this was handled in a bizzare way. Relatively disorganized layers of usages stratified despite also some objections, no proper summary, no clear explanation in the guidelines is not the best scenario. Also, most of these articles are stubs, we could write something more but we don't.
  • people should know what goes beyond an IF when describing a journal, and probably some researchers should as well especially those who claim to be multidisciplinary and international. I worked in various fields, in countries centered on European, Asian or American journals, and I find myself looking for a new journals for more "exotic" publication in a new field every 2-3 years. The use of quartile for example can be crucial in making the best plan. Like now, I am thinking of a draft about classical culture, using just IF tells me nothing.
  • It's noteworthy that the tendency of writing the excessive case (sorry for the original wirter, it's not personal) was also emerging To list all metrics with their rankings for all available years is unfeasible and not really of interest to almost any reader. Agree, but who wants that? Maybe the same people who try to write a list of almost all the archives that index a journal I suppose :D. Seriously, all available years? All metrics? The world has more nuances than going from one to all in many fields, and we can stop just because of a "traditial usage".
  • I don't get in the end this "tradition". I get the suorces. Other metrics are not the all same, and they are discussed. They have reason to exist and it's still strange to me as a strategy to cut them completely in almost all the cases.--Alexmar983 (talk) 22:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Notification of new AfC drafts

Just an FYI:

Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:32, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Declined the first two WP:TOOSOON, accepted the third one (after a major spitshine). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:36, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate ISO abbrevs

Apparently both Science Education (journal) and Science & Education both have the same ISO 4 abbreviation (namely, Sci. Educ.). What should be done with this redirect? It's currently a redirect to the latter journal, but should it be converted into a disambiguation page or something? Maybe one of the ISO abbrevs is wrong somehow? Every morning (there's a halo...) 02:20, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

We should find what is the actual ISO abbreviation for both journals. One will usually have a city in it, e.g. Sci. Educ. (Camb.) or something. Usually the old one has no city, since it's the first one. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:54, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:59, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Precision and Future Medicine

Could someone please look at Draft:Precision and Future Medicine? I didn't create the article in article space because I wasn't sure that the journal was notable. It isn't listed in Worldcat, but it's published by a university, and the two editors appear to be productive researchers. Eastmain (talk o contribs) 01:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

  • Looks like it is WP:TOOSOON. Notability is not inherited from either the university or the editors. At this point, the lack of sources makes this a miss of GNG and the lack of indexing in selective databases makes this a miss of WP:NJournals. The website looks good, clearly not one of those crappy (often predatory) journals popping up all over the place, so I'd expect this to be accepted in, say, Scopus, soon enough. But given that even reputable publishers have occasional duds that fold after a few years, article creation is premature. --Randykitty (talk) 08:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
    • I agree. However, I don't see a problem with mentioning the journal in the article about the university. XOR'easter (talk) 17:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
      • If it's important enough that it doesn't become undue... --Randykitty (talk) 18:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Add academic journals to WP:VITAL

SeeWikipedia talk:Vital articles/Level/4#Add: Academic journal + others for the dicussion. Please participate. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Participation is low so far. Comments would be very appreciated here. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Expansion of Academic journal

I recently expanded the academic journal article, adding information on history/growth. Sourcing seems spotty in parts, so extra eyes would be good. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

This could use more feedback. If you haven't commented, please do! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(academic_journals)#Dictionary_definition_of_guideline

Please comment. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:46, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

2017 IFs

The 2017 IFs are online. I have edited the appropriate tracking categories and the infobox template accordingly. Headbomb, could you be so kind to check what I did, editing templates is not really my forte... Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 15:02, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

@Randykitty: It's all fine. If you could update defaultlogic.com Resource: WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Resources#Abstracting_and_indexing_databases_(with_some_preformatted_references) to make use of the modern information, that would be great. (Clarivate, rather than Thomson Reuters/ISI for instance). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:05, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Great, thanks. And  Done --Randykitty (talk) 15:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
I'd happily help to update the journal pages with the new IFs but sadly I don't have access to the official site to retrieve the info. Is there a pdf of the list of ISI journals with their new IFs somewhere, or can anybody extract this info from the website and put it on file? Gianvito Scaringi (talk) 15:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Here is the full list of the new Impact Factors, happy to share it! https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326008448_2018_Journal_Impact_Factors_Updated_June_27_2018_JCR_JIF_IF_PDF_download_available

Gianvito Scaringi (talk) 04:14, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

defaultlogic.com Resource: Bot requests#Redirects of OMICS journals

If you have comments for this bot request I've made, please follow the link. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:39, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

defaultlogic.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Medio Ambiente y Urbanización

This AfD could use the input of some knowledgeable editors (just re-listed with scant participation). Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 07:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Draft:AMIH (Acta Microbiologica et Immunologica Hungarica)

Another editor created Draft:AMIH (Acta Microbiologica et Immunologica Hungarica). Could an experienced editor please take a look at the draft? Eastmain (talk o contribs) 01:26, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

@Eastmain: Spitshined and moved to mainspace. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:38, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

defaultlogic.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Journal of Public Affairs Education (journal)

This AfD could do with some more input from knowledgeable editors. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 08:39, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:American Journal of Educational Research and Reviews

Another editor created Draft:American Journal of Educational Research and Reviews. I do not know whether the draft should be accepted. Eastmain (talk o contribs) 05:34, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

The indexes listed in the draft are not selective and do not pass WP:NJournals. But more seriously (as I also stated in an AfC comment) this publisher, eSciPub, is one that has been listed by Beall as predatory and we should not accept an article that doesn't mention anything about this problem. --David Eppstein (talk) 05:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. I agree that the draft should not be accepted. Eastmain (talk o contribs) 11:16, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

defaultlogic.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Behrooz Astaneh

The article about Behrooz Astaneh, the editor of the Iranian Journal of Medical Sciences, is at AfD. You may want to bvisit defaultlogic.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Behrooz Astaneh. Eastmain (talk o contribs) 07:04, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

American Scientific Publishers, Journal of Biomedical Nanotechnology, and Journal of Nanoscience and Nanotechnology

Journal of Nanoscience and Nanotechnology is published by American Scientific Publishers, which is on Beall's list. defaultlogic.com resource has an article on the journal, but not the publishing company. I have tagged the journal article for notability, and would like to ask other editors whether it should go to AfD.

International Journal of Ecosystem is published by Scientific & Academic Publishing, which is also on Beall's list. No article for either one. Should a redirect be created for each of the publishing companies that would point to Predatory open-access publishing, or would that just be inviting litigation?

I first heard about the two journals through a draft biography for a Canadian academic that lists him as an editorial board member for the two journals. See Draft:Arzu_Sardarli. Eastmain (talk o contribs) 10:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Journal of Biomedical Nanotechnology is another title published by American Scientific Publishers. It claims to be peer-reviewed, but if it is published by a predatory publisher, the article should be deleted. Eastmain (talk o contribs) 10:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

  • I ahve joined these two items as it concerns the same issue. Both journals are notable, because they are in highly-selective databases, such as the Science Citation Index, meaning that the experts who do the selection for those databases were satisfied that the peer-review processes of these journals is adequate. I checked their impact factors and even the rather high one of the Journal of Biomedical Nanotechnology checks out. The only thing we can do is to cite the inclusion of the publisher on Beall's list, as we have done with some Pulsus journals, for example. As for the academic, he also proudly lists being on the board of the International Journal of Ecosystem (sic!). Insofar as non-notability can be proven, this goes a long way... As for the question about the redirect, that would pose a problem, I think. Probably best to leave it red-linked untill the time they do such stupid things that this would make them notable (like OMICS and Pulsus). --Randykitty (talk) 11:52, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Social Problems and WP:NACADEMIC

Two articles on editors-in-chief of Social Problems that I created (Becky Pettit and Pamela Anne Quiroz) have recently been tagged for notability by an IP. The IP's argument is that Social Problems is not a major enough journal to allow its editors-in-chief to meet WP:NACADEMIC#C8 (e.g. this edit summary). I wanted to see whether other editors agreed with this argument. IntoThinAir (formerly Everymorning) talk 14:40, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Nonsense, that's a clear meet of NACADEMIC. I have removed the notability tags and put the articles on my watchlist. --Randykitty (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Archives of Scientific Psychology

I noticed that the page Archives of Scientific Psychology was accepted through AFC in 2012--before the first issue of the journal had even been published! The journal does not appear to meet NJOURNALS, as it has no impact factor and the databases it is indexed in don't seem selective enough (DOAJ and PsycInfo, for example). Do other editors think it is notable enough for an article? IntoThinAir (formerly Everymorning) talk 17:00, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

defaultlogic.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Current Opinion (Current Drugs)

One of our journal series / WP:SIA is at deletion, again. Please comment. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:17, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Mathematics Education Research Journal

Possibly of interest to this project: Draft:Mathematics Education Research Journal Eastmain (talk o contribs) 03:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

  • I've had it on my watchlist for a while now. Once I find a moment, I'll help the editor who created it. The journal meets NJournals (it is included in Scopus), but the current draft is not acceptable (it even contains material copied directly from the journal's own website, perhaps not enough to be speedily deleted as a copyvio, but not acceptable anyway). --Randykitty (talk) 08:28, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

defaultlogic.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Archives of Scientific Psychology

This AfD has not many participants yet and would benefit from the participation of knowledgeable editors. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 07:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Predator spotting?

Can anyone explain this edit - particularly the auto-warning in the summary, "(Tag: Citing predatory open access journal".

I can see one journal being added, <ref name="bhb09">{{cite article| url=https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/271285/1/bizer-heath-berners-lee-ijswis-linked-data.pdf | title=Linked Data - The Story So Far | first1=Christian | last1=Bizer | first2=Tom | last2=Heath | first3=Tim | last3=Berners-Lee |authorlink3=Tim Berners-Lee | journal=[[International Journal on Semantic Web and Information Systems]] | volume=5 | number=3 | date=2009 | doi=10.4018/jswis.2009081901 }}</ref> [1] but no reason why International Journal on Semantic Web and Information Systems should be suspicious.

Or is something else on the page triggering it? @Jpbowen: - any ideas? Andy Dingley (talk) 00:13, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

My guess is that this is a journal published by IGI Global, which is not a super great amazing awesome publisher (see deletion discussion). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:37, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Oh, what? JzG sledgehammering an edit filter into place just because of his own personal biases? (look at the deletion and salting) Like we've never seen that one before! 8-( Andy Dingley (talk) 10:10, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
It does seem incredible that a journal with authors like Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the web (without whom Wikipedia would not even exist in its current form), is "banned" on Wikipedia. Where was this discussed (please send a link if available) or is it unilateral action? It seems to be bordering on censorship! The published paper is behind a paywall (not open access) but the submitted version is also on the University of Southampton open access website. Perhaps the University of Southampton should be banned for being associated with such a journal too! --Jonathan Bowen (talk) 10:48, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
I note that neither the International Journal on Semantic Web and Information Systems nor the publisher IGI Global are on Beall's list of predatory journals and publishers. The journal is indexed by a number of respected journal indexes. This publisher may not have the highest reputation but it does publish academically respectable papers. As such I believe neither the journal nor the publisher should be banned outright on Wikipedia. Perhaps an independent defaultlogic.com resource administrator could investigate and take whatever action they deem appropriate. --Jonathan Bowen (talk) 11:04, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
The journal isn't banned outright, it's just flagged as a thing to watch and you need to confirm that you did mean to link to it. It's possible the filter needs to be tweaked though, as my understanding is the shit practices of IGI Global seemed to be focused around books over journals. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

defaultlogic.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Connections (journal)

Exce^t for the nom and one IP, there has been no participation in this debate by knowledgeable editors. Additional comments needed! Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 10:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

List of neuroscience journals

I recently created List of neuroscience journals and I want other editors to expand it. IntoThinAir (formerly Everymorning) talk 15:56, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Randykitty (talk · contribs) could certainly help here, if he didn't self-block himself. You could ask at WT:MED however. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:07, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

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Led Digital Marketing Efforts of Top 500 e-Retailers.
Worked with Top Brands at Leading Agencies.
Successfully Managed Over $50 million in Digital Ad Spend.
Developed Strategies and Processes that Enabled Brands to Grow During an Economic Downturn.
Taught Advanced Internet Marketing Strategies at the graduate level.


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